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guest_habs4life
July 26th, 2003, 04:30 PM
Anyone with addresses for these players would be appreciated:
(Home Adresses)

Martin Rucinsky
Andrew Cassels
Donald Audette
Sheldon Souray
Joe Nieuwendyk
Doug Gilmour
Patrick Roy
Mario Lemieux
Wayne Gretzky
Chris Pronger
Steve Yzerman
Paul Kariya
Mike Modano
Felix Potvin
Ron Francis
Rostislav Klesla
Sean Burke
Owen Nolan
Markus Naslund
Dwayne Roloson
Shayne Corson
Patrice Brisebois
Marc Denis
Mark Recchi
Byron Dafoe
Andrew Brunette
Denis Arkhipov
Ulf Dahlen
Valeri Bure
Robert Esche
Brian Leetch
Erik Cole
Patrick Lalime
Michal Handzus
Martin Straka
Peter Forsberg
Jeff Friesen
Manny Fernandez
Mike Ribeiro
Steve Heinze
Adam Foote
Sandy McCarthy
Tie Domi
Kristian Huselius
Jeremy Roenick
Gary Roberts
Chris Chelios
Brett Hull
Petr Nedved
Roman Turek
Milan Hejduk
Brendan Witt
Mike Ricci
Ziggy Palffy
Ed Jovanovski
Pierre Turgeon
Brian Savage
Janne Niinimaa
Jonas Hoglund
Marian Hossa
Yanic Perreault
Nikolai Khabbibulin
Rob Ray
Kim Johnsson
Glen Murray
Dominek Hasek
Cory Stillman
Eric Brewer
Jason Arnott
Brendan Morrison
Pavol Demitra
Sergei Berezin
Jere Lehtinen
Teppo Numminen
Petr Sykora
Wade Redden
Scott Niedermayer
Jamie Langenbrunner
Adam Oates
Chris Osgood
Jochen Hecht
Steve Sullivan
Trevor Linden
Robert Lang
Greg Johnson
Alexander Mogilny
Adrian Aucoin
Jose Theodore
Richard Zednik
Jan Bulis
Stephane Quintal
Arron Asham
Mike Sillinger
Chris Simon
Mike Dunham
Al MacInnis
Rob Blake
Joe Sakic
Oleg Tverdovsky
Curtis Joseph
Sandis Ozolinsh
Ron Tugnutt
Todd Bertuzzi
Derian Hatcher
Kevin Hatcher
Nicklas Lidstrom
Jocelyn Thibault
Bryan McCabe
Claude Lemieux
Luc Robitaille
Evgeni Nabokov
Derek Morris
Mark Messier
Ed Belfour
Brian Rolston
Kimmo Timonen
Arthurs Irbe
Jeff O'Niell
Doug Weight
Sergei Gonchar
Patrik Elias
Radek Bonk
Phil Housley
Alex Auld
Pavel Brendl
Kristian Kudroc
Marcel Hossa
Ales Kotalik
Teemu Selanne
Alexandre Giroux
Alexei Ponikarovsky
Martin Brodeur
Mike Comrie
Johan Hedberg
Eric Lindros
Joe Thornton
Vincent LeCavalier
Ray Bourque
Larry Murphy

Any information on who signs is appreciated as well.

Thanks.

ChickenParm2Go
July 27th, 2003, 12:05 PM
Why isn't anyone upset about this guy, who hasn't even registered with the forum, and yet he submits such a large list of address wants. This is the worst kind of moocher, someone who contributes nothing to the hobby and probably sends away for 10 autographs at a time and 9 of them go up on ebay they day he gets the envelopes back from the players. Guys like this make it tougher and tougher for the real collectors. THAT'S THE PRIME REASON WHY PLAYERS DON'T SIGN.

IMHO.

Harvey

goaliefan
July 27th, 2003, 01:09 PM
can't all those players be reached at the teams they play for?

I would have no problem with the length of his list if they were
trying to locate former NHL players.

and I think people are upset with them, just look at how many
responses they got so far.

ChickenParm2Go
July 27th, 2003, 01:41 PM
You're right. Even if they didn't want to purchase a list, most of the players on the list can be reached c/o a team.But this is obviously a person who is just lazy, doesn't want to do any work for their hobby and expects everyone to help them. I stll have a problem with someone posting such a long list, retired player or current. There's over 130 names on this guy's address want list!

P-A-T-H-E-T-I-C!!!!!!!!!!!

Unregistered
July 27th, 2003, 01:53 PM
I’ve received replies from at least 50 of thee players you listed through their teams. Write them through their teams because active players are more likely to answer that way rather than if you write them at home. An exception would be the Colorado Avalanche and the New York Rangers. I’ve heard that the Rangers don’t forward mail to their players and all I’ve ever received back are autographed postcards from Avalanche players saying that they’re too busy to sign individually. Haven’t been able to tell if the cards are auto-penned yet, though.

bigbadbruin
July 27th, 2003, 03:06 PM
Originally posted by ChickenParm2Go
You're right. Even if they didn't want to purchase a list, most of the players on the list can be reached c/o a team. There's over 130 names on this guy's address want list!

P-A-T-H-E-T-I-C!!!!!!!!!!!

It's just way too easy for some people to copy & paste names....

Harvey, did I ever send you that Tom McCarthy address?

Unregistered
July 27th, 2003, 03:42 PM
Actually, I am registered on this board, under, "hockey_expert". I lost my password when I got a newer computer. I was trying to locate home addresses so I could send out a few cards during the summer months, is that a crime ?

ChickenParm2Go
July 27th, 2003, 05:34 PM
Asking for over 130 names? It's not a crime, it's just greedy.
You could have taken much less effort and gotten a new password. I think you used the Unregistered approach to mooch some addresses.

hockey_expert
July 27th, 2003, 08:27 PM
happy ?

hockey_expert
July 27th, 2003, 08:34 PM
let me get this straight, I'm the greedy one ?

if I'm not mistakin, you are the one who pawns people into buying a peice of paper saying where someone lives, I'd like these addresses, but I'm not gonna pay for them...

ChickenParm2Go
July 27th, 2003, 09:58 PM
NO, you'd rather mooch them. I sell a product. Nothing more, nothing less. I don't force anyone into buying a list. And I put out a damn good product. What did you ever do in your life except ask for something for nothing?

Unregistered
July 27th, 2003, 10:12 PM
Actually, I think that teams will hold onto letters for their players over the summer months if not farward them, but am not absolutely sure on this. Why can't everybody stop using these forums to fight and get along. If someone's post offends you, just ignore it!

hockey_expert
July 27th, 2003, 11:29 PM
Harvey, instead of bickering, here is my website of addresses I have of right now.

http://hockey_fan9360.tripod.com/tntautographs/

If you see any that you need, or don't have, feel free to take them and copy them. But if you didn't have any, please tell me, and we could arrange for you to tell me an address for one of the players on my list, deal ?

Hollywood
July 28th, 2003, 04:34 AM
Man, Harvey dude stop crying. You are trying to make money with those lists which definitly ruins it for true collectors even more than a guy asking for 100 or even 200 adresses. I did so before. anyone did and if possible everybody gets help on here. FOR FREE that is.

So stop grying and get a grip.... this is hobby not business

ChickenParm2Go
July 28th, 2003, 07:26 AM
I don't know why you think that by my producing address lists and selling them, that I'm ruining the hobby. I give a lot of collectors, who don't know how or where to contact athletes, not only hockey, a chance to add autographs to their collection.

It's a product, that's it. Nothing more, nothing less. You don't want it, fine. I sell thousands of address lists every year, so obviously someone wants them.

The fact that I believe in being honest, burns a lot of people on this forum. When someone lists an address, where do you think it comes from a lot of the time. One of my address lists. So the same people that are whining and putting me down for selling addresses, benefit from it and it doesn't cost them a cent. Why is it fair for one jerk to buy one of my lists and post hundreds of addresses on a forum?

And what is this BS "true collectors?" What is a true collector? I've been collecting autographs through the mail for over 30 years. I've helped the hobby more than you will in 10 lifetimes and
you tell me to "get a grip?" Look on ebay for the prices signed items are selling for, or look in SCD to see how much players are charging for signings. IT IS A BUSINESS! Grow up.

Hollywood
July 28th, 2003, 08:34 AM
You mentioned that people send out 10 items ruining the hobby. You assist those people with your lists, donīt you? So I think you shouldnīt complain about that.

Just like you said I donīt want you lists because I can get about all addresses I need in another way, for free. Whitepages, internet search, etc...

Also, as you said it is a product and products get dublicated often, you donīt have any copyrights to other peoples home addresses, do you? So I donīt think saying this or that came from my list is an argument.

And yeah, a true collector well I donīt know you used that term in your initial post so I just picked it up. I guess a true collector is a person that has a couple of players that they would like to get a graph from for a specific reason. Either it beeing to complete a set or because he has some sort of other connection to that specific player. So I think true collectors donīt need a list of 1000 players to get what they collect.

I donīt care either if I helped my hobby/your busines or not. To me it is a hobby. I donīt sell or buy anything related to autographs. I either trade or get them myself. So anyways collecting 30 years of your life is not giving you more grip in my o.

Anyway, I donīt want to turn this into a flamewar. I just wanted to point out that all your posts are basically either "buy my lists" posts or "I know better than you" posts or just insulting and I donīt like it because this board never had a problem with people asking for multiple addys before. He will either get a reply or not....whatever...

hockey_expert
July 28th, 2003, 10:54 AM
You ask why some dude has to buy lists while others get them free, the guys who buy them are the stupid collectors. If you think if someone buying the list, its not fair for someone to get addresses from here, because they are the same, why don't you make the lists free, like an "honest" person would.

ChickenParm2Go
July 28th, 2003, 11:28 AM
You're obviously a very naive, punk kid who never had to work a day in his life to earn a living. Why don't you go down to some store where you live and tell them you want to work for them, FOR FREE!!!! People like you make me sick.

hockey_expert
July 28th, 2003, 03:30 PM
You talk about being honest, does an honest person actually sell a peice of paper with addresses on it ? I don't think so. You know what else isn't "honest", the people who give you the addresses, for "free".

ChickenParm2Go
July 28th, 2003, 05:43 PM
Why isn't it honest selling addresses to collectors? You're an idiot.
People are buying the lists over and over every year (so there must be a market, and the lists must be getting them good results) but because you're too cheap to spend $15 and would rather mooch addresses from everyone, I'm not honest? I repeat, you're an idiot.

I won't respond to any of your posts any more. I refuse to deal with an idiot.

hockey_expert
July 28th, 2003, 08:32 PM
You just refuse to be proven wrong...

bigbadbruin
July 28th, 2003, 09:03 PM
The guy obviously put a lot of time and effort into compiling these lists....where's his incentive to keep doing that and then give the addresses away for free? Face it, most of the addresses circulated on the internet come off Harvey's list. Of all the addresses on that list, MAYBE 30% of those players could be tracked via internet search engines. As for the rest, you have to have a general idea as to where the player resides, otherwise you're shit out of luck in ever tracking them down

ChickenParm2Go
July 29th, 2003, 07:14 AM
Finally a voice of reason.

Harvey

Hollywood
July 29th, 2003, 07:38 AM
Harvey, it is not about giving "your" addresses away for free. The problem is that you have no right to blame somebody for just asking. Just because you are selling those doesnīt mean that everyone who wants any addys must buy them from you from now on. Donīt flame him for asking. Are you going to put a reply to every post telling the poster to buy your list or else get lost, or what? If he is a naive idiotic punk kid then you are poor idiot who should get himself some real job and stop taking himself too serious,.....but well whatsoever I guess I stop bothering now...

goaliefan
July 29th, 2003, 05:08 PM
Harvey its seems to me that the people who are upset with you
are the ones that want something for nothing.
The $15 I paid for your list was will worth it, for what I got in return in the way of autographs was well worth it.
Before I send out letters asking for autographs I confirm the
addresses from your list with other collectors, thus saving
myself alot of money.

I get very upset when I hear collectors" dealers" who write to
hockey players asking them to sign 10 hockey cards, pictures etc,
then they get mad because he didnt sign all 10.
A collector only needs one autograph and hockey players
know this.

Harvey just keep doing what you do best

goaliefan
July 29th, 2003, 05:12 PM
Harvey did you ever try your address for Bill Goldthorpe
in Sask, and is it anygood?

I read in a Vancouver 2002 newspaper that he was building
apartments in San Diego?

Thanks

swiss-nhl
August 1st, 2003, 04:59 AM
hi harvey, i also have your list...and i read that someone mentioned that the list will kind of be the end of getting autographs c/o home...

well, even i write so players homes, i think players will more and more stop to sign c/o home...it's just a matter of time, until they get too much fanmail and stop signing at all.

if we look back, 2 years ago, nearly nobody used to write c/o home...and if you did, the success was nearly 100% for sure...
look at it now, several players already stopped and i'm sure, more will do...but i don't htink this is because of your list, it's just how things turned out to be...


markus, switzerland

mws16
August 1st, 2003, 10:59 AM
What's the difference if someone buys the book and gives them out? I have no problems giving out addresses when that's how I get them.

hockey_expert
August 1st, 2003, 11:53 AM
mws16

I agree with you. I'm just starting the hobby, I don't want to shell out money until I get some requests back signed. With people like Harvey, it keeps newcomers from joining the hobby.

goaliefan
August 1st, 2003, 09:20 PM
Hockey-expert
I think your wrong Harvey when you say newcomers wont join
the hobby if they have to pay for his address list . I think would
more people join the hobby, because his address lists are a short
cut.
Harvey does all the work you pay $15 and can get your cards,
photos etc autographed for the price of a few stamps. and thats
better then paying $25 at a card show.
I think its takes alot of work to put a address list "job"
together and $15 is a small price to pay.

I think its a good idea if we leave Harvey alone, he is not hurting
the hobby.
He does not have to defend himself you buy his list or you
dont, but dont come on the Hockeydb and bitch about it.

Unregistered
March 9th, 2006, 03:35 PM
This Artist Has Been Stressin Him Out For Years And Not Even Paying Him A Cent Are Star Really Like This To People Or Do They Have Hearts.....

Or What Is A Star

Unregistered
May 14th, 2006, 03:34 PM
Harvey, it is not about giving "your" addresses away for free. The problem is that you have no right to blame somebody for just asking. Just because you are selling those doesnīt mean that everyone who wants any addys must buy them from you from now on. Donīt flame him for asking. Are you going to put a reply to every post telling the poster to buy your list or else get lost, or what? If he is a naive idiotic punk kid then you are poor idiot who should get himself some real job and stop taking himself too serious,.....but well whatsoever I guess I stop bothering now...

you are wrong,i agree with Harvey .You see in life Harvey doesn`t have to do squat diddley.I have spent as much as $25.00 just to find one retired player.I have close to 5000 hockey autos .I could never recover even part of my cost . The search is part of the collecting .Give Harvey a break****alwaysawing****

barbafluff
October 25th, 2007, 06:28 AM
Wayne is notorius in using autopen signatures..so dont waste your stamps on that....I have gotten two cards from him with autopen..just ruins the cards in my opinion...since it has no autograph value and the cards value is gone as well since its has ink on it...

FALCON
October 26th, 2007, 10:59 PM
Just my take on this thread...
I would not post a list asking for that many addresses, it seems your being greedy. I am not saying that is the case or accusing him of that, but I would feel that way. I limit mine to maybe 4 or 5.

Harvey I bought your list last year and it was good, but as others stated you can find he addresses by doing your own research and by viewing several autograph pages. My only problem with this thread is that I have been posting here a while and besides this I have never seen you post here and all the sudden you show up only to burn this guy?? Whats up with that?? Are you just mad because he is getting what you are selling for free??
If not that is how it seems, and unless I have missed the responses to my posts in the past I have never seen your log in provide an address for anyone?? So with that my question is that if your not here to share addresses and do not agree with it than why are you looking on here? Are you using it to help your business?? Just asking not taking sides?

I just think that if your going to post just to burn someone it is making yourself look bad.

As for your list, yes it is good but I will go back to a point you threw out about him being young and not having a job I believe is what you said. I am not young and I work 3 jobs to provide for my family and have been collecting autographs for 23 years now and have never sold or bought an autograph and never will, I did not buy your list this year because I could not afford it, not because I want everyone to do the work for me or becasue I want to get them for free, but the food on my familys table comes before a list that you charge for so don't always jump to conclussions, maybe he just can't afford it.....

I am sure not eveyone will agree with this post but just wanted to add my thought don't always be so fast to just down someones throat after all this is supposed to be fun!!