Why are my statistics not included?
Hockeydb.com does not include players from every single hockey league ever to play. The focus of hockeydb.com is professional hockey leagues and selected amateur leagues. Because there are hundreds of hockey leagues in existence, most of which never send more than a handful of players to professional hockey, a line has to be drawn so that the focus of hockeydb.com remains consistent.
Additionally, hockeydb.com is more focused on North American hockey. This is a matter of practicality, because European hockey data has been (and still is) largely unpublished. Although every effort is made to include European leagues where North American players play as imports, not every league publishes its statistics. If a league's statistics are not public, then they cannot possibly be included on hockeydb.com.
Loosely translated, this means that hockeydb.com features players from:
Leagues that are not regularly featured are:
Hockeydb.com will try and include data from unpublished leagues when a player appears as a pro for the first time, to give fans an idea as to where the player came from. However, since most of this information is unpublished, it may not be possible to provide anything more than a roster entry (no statistics).
Why are my coaching statistics not included?
Coaching information is not as readily available as player statistics. Coaches are usually only listed in media guides or game programs, and when a coach is changed mid-season the fact of this change is not often recorded anywhere. Assistant coaches are even less documented, since their hiring usually occurs after a media guide or program is published. Sometimes players are told they are a player-assistant coach, but very often this fact is not printed anywhere, or sometimes the designation is not official since the league may prohibit player-assistants.
Also, coaches often take nontraditional paths, coaching in obscure leagues which hockeydb.com does not cover. We realize that this makes a coaching profile appear to be incomplete, however we simply cannot research and/or include the coaches of low-level Junior C or youth hockey programs.
Hockeydb.com does not track affiliation with a team that falls outside the realm of coaching; for example, we do not track scouting positions or General Managers.
Hockeydb.com also makes a distinction between a Video Coach and a Video Coordinator, since teams make this distinction as well. Video coaches are included in the coaching section; video coordinators are not. Additionally, coaches that are not typically associated with being ex-players, such as strength and conditioning coaches, are not included in the coaching section.
Why won't you accept the statistics I send you via e-mail?
Several unscrupulous hockey players have contacted hockeydb.com and have expressed interest in us either directly falsifying statistics, or have submitted false statistics in order to beef up their resume. Due to this, all statistics submissions to hockeydb.com must be provided in writing, with official documented proof of the numbers. The only documentation that is acceptable is a photocopy of a team or league publication, or a newspaper article that provides direct proof of the claim.
Due to a recent forgery involving a web page, printouts of web pages are not allowed as documentation. If you have a reference from a webpage, a pointer to the URL will suffice.
Items that are subjective and questionable, such as an interview with the player in question in a newspaper, statistics from Eurohockey.net (which accepts user submissions), and even statistics printed in team publications as part of a player's "prior season records" (these can be falsely submitted to a team's staff) will not serve as proof.
Hockeydb.com encourages communication when information is said to be incorrect or missing, and we will research the discrepancies to the best of our ability, however, if you claim to have played in a particular league and the official league statistics don't support that, or there are no available official league statistics, we will not add the information that you send without such objective proof.
Can you forward a message to a player?
Hockeydb.com does not have any direct contact with hockey players. All names and statistics are obtained from public sources such as books, newspapers, or websites. There is no way to contact any player via hockeydb.com
Why are goalie statistics incomplete?
The data entry for hockeydb.com initially only consisted of scoring statistics. The goalie stats are being slowly filled in. Unfortunately over 50% of the goalie stats still need to be updated. Additionally, many leagues kept only basic goalie stats (Minutes, GA, GAA) up until the late 1980's
Why are playoff stats blank for some players?
We are still in the process of adding playoff stats. Most recent major leagues have been completed, and Canadian Juniors and older minor leagues are being worked on. Also, remember, NCAA does not separate regular season statistics from playoffs, and some European leagues combine regular season and playoffs together, so that's why those numbers are all blank.
Why don't you have complete Canadian University statistics?
Many Canadian Universities do not publish their statistics in any books. Also, there is no standardization between schools and conferences as to which games count toward official statistics. Since we do not have any sources for this information, we cannot present it in the database. There is also an issue involving the number of games reported. Since the CIAU/CIS does not actually compile statistics, and the conferences only compile conference games, some games may not appear in a player's statistics because only conference statistics have been widely published.
How about early Canadian Junior stats?
The earliest official guides for Canadian Major Junior leagues were published in the 1970's. Due to this, information may be unavailable for periods prior to that. This is particularly true for Quebec league statistics.
When I look up my favorite player from the 40's, his stats don't seem right. He has all zeros for some teams. Why does this happen?
Prior to WW II, most leagues didn't track the games each player played. Fortunately the box scores back then listed the complete rosters, so the information is not permanently lost, but it has to be re-compiled, which takes a lot of time and effort.
I'm sure I remember a particular player on this team. Why isn't he listed?
Mistakes happen. There are hundreds of thousands of entries in the database. There are opportunities for both data entry error and even error in the official statistics. If you think there is a mistake, tell us.
Can you answer this hockey trivia question for me?
I'm sorry, but I'm not a trivia expert. Try Liam Maguire's Hockey Trivia page for trivia questions.
Why are many of your logos black & white?
Many older game programs only featured their logos in black and white. Since we don't have a color source for these logos, we can only present what is available
Why don't you have early NHL logos? I know I've seen those somewhere
The early NHL logos were most likely pirated from the Hockey News CD-ROM published circa 1995. Since we don't pirate logos from other competing electronic sources, we won't use those logos in the database.
Aren't these logos the property of the teams? Did you get permission from all of these teams to display their logos?
Yes, the logos are the property of the teams. No, we didn't get permission to use the logos. Many of the teams have long since gone out of business and the logos may not have been copyrighted or registered as trademarks. For more current logos, which many certainly have been copyrighted, we use the logos under the blanket of "fair use". Since this site archives hockey history, it is for historical purposes. There should be no trademark violations because we are not selling any products associated with any of the logos displayed.
In any event, if you're the holder of a copyright on any of these logos, and would not like your logo displayed, please e-mail us and upon proof of ownership, we'll take the logo down. Of course, we'll replace the logo with a little note about how uncooperative you were, but that's only fair...
The fact that we have these logos on the site does not make them public domain. The logos remain the property of their respective owners, and the actual files that we have scanned belong to hockeydb.com. We spent plenty of time scanning each logo, so don't pirate them without asking us first. We will most likely let you use a logo file, just ask! (We've caught people pirating these logos, trying to set up sites identical to this one.)